XHTML 2 is dead

[Firestryke31]

Depending on how the browser implemented it, image border tags would make my theme a whole lot easier, since it wouldn't require nearly as much template editing.

The biggest problem I think is the fact that people aren't using HTML the way it was meant to be used (i.e. describing what the contents of a page are, not how they look), and so to make things easier for people making the transition, they don't dump the things that make it easy to misuse it. I've been guilty of that myself.

Edit: Dang, I post something, then think of something else to add right away...

[blueparukia]

Quote:What makes you say that? XHTML2 was a huge leap and was getting away from HTML and becoming more XML . And, just because it's not supported in IE yet doesn't mean Microsoft won't get their act together. I mean they will have to act fast when HTML5 is finished.

I think they should have stuck with developing XHTML2 I like a lot of the new stuff coming from it. And HTML5 makes me mad in a lot of places.

XHTML2 was not a huge leap forward. It was a bit of a jump, but nothing special. IE will NOT act fast when HTML 5 is completed. They still do not fully support CSS2 or even HTML 4.

Quote:XHTML is great and works fine in IE for the most part.
If it doesn't it's IEs fault.

It is IE's fault, but while it still has such a signifigant market share, Microsoft don't particularly need to address it. When they do add it, it will be too little too late. CSS 2.1 was released in 1999, IE6 in 2001. Only now, 10 years later does IE support it as well as the others.

Quote:Example: http://lennartsauter.de

See this in your source:

Code:

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

Particularly pay attention to content="text/html

That means you are not serving your page as real xHTML at all, but HTML. The code you've written is xHTML 1.0 Strict. Which is just HTML without presentational elements, and an awesome looking "<br />". xHTML was built for awesome XML applications and should be served as "application/xhtml+xml". Though since this was never deployable in IE, the W3C relaxed this restriction earlier this year. I still believe xHTML 1.1 should be used for things unique to XHTML, that can't be duplicated in HTML.

But screw HTML 5 or xHtML 1.2 or 2.0 - CSS3 is the important thing. I haven't played around with Opera 10 yet, but I'm fairly sure Safari remains the most standards compliant CSS3 browser around.

[Lennart Sauter]

(07-06-2009 05:44 AM)blueparukia Wrote:  

Quote:XHTML is great and works fine in IE for the most part.
If it doesn't it's IEs fault.

It is IE's fault, but while it still has such a signifigant market share, Microsoft don't particularly need to address it. When they do add it, it will be too little too late. CSS 2.1 was released in 1999, IE6 in 2001. Only now, 10 years later does IE support it as well as the others.

Indeed.

(07-06-2009 05:44 AM)blueparukia Wrote:  

Quote:Example: http://lennartsauter.de

See this in your source:

Code:

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

Particularly pay attention to content="text/html

That means you are not serving your page as real xHTML at all, but HTML. The code you've written is xHTML 1.0 Strict. Which is just HTML without presentational elements, and an awesome looking "<br />". xHTML was built for awesome XML applications and should be served as "application/xhtml+xml". Though since this was never deployable in IE, the W3C relaxed this restriction earlier this year. I still believe xHTML 1.1 should be used for things unique to XHTML, that can't be duplicated in HTML.

I know that and it will be fixed soon (just working on a IE workarround again since my old one had flaws in subpages), expect the "application/xhtml+xml" back in two days or so...
Code is XHTML 1.1 by the way.

Kind regards
Lennart Sauter

[Lennart Sauter]

Found a nice comic strip about the relationship between XHTML 1,2 and HTML 5 that might interest you:
http://media2.smashingmagazine.com/wp-co...-960px.jpg

[NetSage]

(08-01-2009 09:47 PM)Lennart Sauter Wrote:  Found a nice comic strip about the relationship between XHTML 1,2 and HTML 5 that might interest you:
http://media2.smashingmagazine.com/wp-co...-960px.jpg

403 error .

[Lennart Sauter]

Worked for me yesterday but I guess they count it as image hotlinking
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/...mic-strip/
Should work

[Chrissy Poo]

Glad its going tbh